( Gense 6:3) Ce decret divin mis en 2490 avant notre re marqu le commencement de la fin pour le monde impie. After being given divine warning of things not yet beheld,' says the apostle Paul, '[Noah] showed godly fear and constructed an ark for the saving of his household.' ^ par. (Luke 21:32) And Jehovah, who is the source of inspired and unfailing prophecy, will bring about the fulfillment of his Son's words in a relatively short time." First, there is no literal mountain of Megiddo. That great historical event took place in the year 1914, conclusive proof concerning this having already appeared in the . 16:16; ftn.) []. A financial crisis (hundreds of millions in just U.S., Can, and U.K. alone) could precipitate this shrinkage in an organization already pressed for funds. latest There are a couple f groups who believe in 2034. But this lie will be especially dangerous because it will give people a false sense of security just before the greatest tribulation in human history begins. *** w84 12/1 p. 18 Keep Ready! *** Watchtower 1981 February 15 p.19 Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible? I think it will take another decade (of the older generation of JW's dying off in waves) before the "1914 generation" shit hits the proverbial fan. 8:3) How so? Thieves! Your donation gift(s) are very much appreciated and may qualify as a charitable deduction for federal income tax purposes. A plane carrying five Jehovah's Witness ministers crashed Saturday, killing all aboard, officials said. For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, railers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, implacable, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, no lovers of good, traitors, headstrong, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power therefore. THE WATCHTOWERSTUDY EDITION September2019, The WatchtowerStudy Edition| September2019. Lawrence, once one of America's great. It is vital, therefore, that each one recognize that Jesus Christ is the Head of the Christian congregation, as well as showing proper regard for those on earth who have been theocratically appointed to positions of oversight.-Phil. Still keep the whole end time thing like others have but make it much more nonspecific, keep the no trinity, no hell, maybe no holidays. And all that without upsetting the majority of its members. Wherever they are on earth, Gods people will trust in him when the attack is launched (See paragraph13)*. SONG 143 Keep Working, Watching, and Waiting. (Luke 21:32) And Jehovah, who is the source of inspired and unfailing prophecy, will bring about the fulfillment 1989 "The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. Rather, he will destroy it in two main stages. He merely uses the ?servant? 3. We will (1)share in the ministry as long as that is possible, (2)maintain our program of study, and (3)continue to trust in Gods protection. They will make her devastated and naked by plundering her wealth and exposing her wickedness. However, there appears to be an opening in these statements for some to do just that. Can we be intellectually honest in using this account in Matthew 24: 37-39 to say that it is referring to a period of time rather than an event? According to Revelation 17:1, 6 and 18:24, why will Jehovah destroy Babylon the Great? I was just a young kid during the 75 debacle but I do remember the energy and excitment thinking that the great trib was going to start any day now (fear too, but that's another story). #1 would make the most sense from a business prospective but I don't see them resisting #2. Should we use these accounts in Matthew and Luke to indicate an extended period of time of the presence of Jesus Christ? Russell, Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. Like that ancient era, Christs presence would be a period of time during which people would be too caught up in the day-to-day affairs of life to take a note of a warning being given. No; Christ Jesus the King has not entrusted that office to them. Then, at Armageddon, he will destroy the rest of Satans world, including its political, military, and commercial systems. Therefore, these revisions and changes are themselves fully theocratic, so they do not alter in any way the fully theocratic structure of the organization. "Jehovah has kept these warnings in front of his people by means of timely reminders through the spiritual food provided by 'the faithful and discreet slave'". (b)What questions will we consider in this article? Let's take a real close look at the name "Jehovah . World. We obey the good news when we apply it in our lives. watchtower Yes, sudden destruction is to be instantly on them, just like birth pains on a pregnant woman. What about Jehovahs loyal servants? Notice that Jesus did not liken his presence to the relatively short period of time during which the Flood occurred in Noah's day. Initially, Russell felt that the battle of Armageddon started in 1874, based on his understanding that this was a social upheaval. The prospect of dying at Armageddon is a terrible thing for a Jehovahs Witness because they are taught that . You know how they expected the end of the world in 1843/4? "it was clearly suggested"? And should we forget; liars. [Christ] outlined things that would befall the Jewish nation during the execution of Jehovahs judgment upon Jerusalem at the hands of the Roman general Titus (Dan. last days. *** Watchtower 1965 June 1 p.352 Questions from Readers ***. Was the Siege at Jerusalem in A.D. 70 the Worst in World History? The cover of that particular issue dramatically asked: Are we nearing Armageddon? (Watchtower, October 15, 1980). but this is the central "seven times" framework which apostate Jehovah's witnesses are now trying to "trample" to buried meaninglessness . With a prediction like that, would you mind us adding you to this list of hallowed prophesiers? As I stated earlier about the account in Luke 17:26-28 referring to the occurrence (event) of the end versus the period of time it would seem that clear thinking would prevent us from trying to attach a length of time of any sort to the presence of Jesus Christ based upon the account in Matthew citied in the article. Those events occurred over many decades. These ones. *** w86 3/15 p. 19 Allow No Place for the Devil! Jehovah's Witnesses state that God's true name is "Jehovah.". They gathered them together to . We are certainly in 'the time of the end.'. 4. 8 That will be the foretold proclamation of peace and security. Why will world leaders say that? My concern is that placing the emphasis of the discussion on the days of Noah might give some the false impression that the Bibles reference to the days of Noah would be similar, if not identical, to the History of Noah (Genesis 6:9) Because, immediately prior to the reference to the History of Noah we have the statement in Genesis 6:3: After that Jehovah said: My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. In fact, they are known throughout the world as Jehovah's Witnesses. There may be some infighting about this as there was in Franz' day, but some new 'prophet' will need to come forward from among them! cit., p. 31). But there is one important difference between the two conflicts. 15. Jesus will hurl him and his demons into an abyss, where they will be locked away for a thousand years.Rev. The Jehovah's Witnesses website provides details on the 1.7 million-square-foot project, known as the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. I recall giving a PT about the last days (early 90s) and even using the argument that we were almost at the 80 year anniversary of 1914 and that generation didn't have many left. Yes, they have. After all, the gods of the once powerful Babylon the Great did not save her from the wild beast and its ten horns! 3:16) And so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. Megiddo was a city in ancient Israel. Danker, et al., Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, Chicago: University of Chicago, 2000, p. 191). Jehovah has allowed the nations time to experiment with all different forms of government. After the destruction of all false religious organizations, Gods people will stand out like a lone tree that survived a fierce storm. so looks like they have a new way of conning innocent folk,feckin barstewards! . Copyright 2001-2015 Jehovah's Witness Discussion Forum | JW.Org Community Information. Share. ***. We can benefit from this consideration. I have a suggestion about what might happen to Witnesses in the future. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers. Never did they say, 'These are the words of Jehovah.' The second text to which our friends appeal in support of their imminent Armageddon theory is found in Pauls second epistle to Timothy. 38:3, 4, 18, 21-23. Jehovah's Witnesses - for indeed, it is they - are stepping up their presence in city centres across the UK in an effort to attract converts to a church that claims more than 8 million . Aussi ses jours se monteront-ils cent vint ans." 17:16) So Gog will expect an easy victory. Even the Watchtowers Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures acknowledges the force of the original text by this rendition of the term apotrepou, and these be turning yourself away from.. (Acts 1:6; compare Luke 19:11; 24:21.) 21 And in case you should say in your heart: "How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?" They believe that Jesus Christ has been ruling in heaven as king since 1914, a date they believe was prophesied in Scripture, and that after that time a period of cleansing occurred, resulting in God's selection of the Bible Students associated with Charles Taze Russell to be his people in 1919. "The 'slave' class has served as God's sole collective channel for the flow of Biblical truth to men on earth. Many others have . In 2014, a San Diego judge ordered Watchtower to award $13.5 million to a man who was abused by a church . "Why 1999? Either that or there is a contradiction between Matthew and Luke on this matter. 5:31) At Armageddon, Gods enemies will likewise perish, while those who love God will be saved. I am just setting out one of the possibilities. ever made a false prediction of Jesus? 1:3) The war of Armageddon will not destroy but save mankind! It behooves all who love righteousness to put forth every effort to advertise THE THEOCRACY while the privileges are still open" ( The Informant, May . (The Watchtower, March 1, 1922), 1922 '1914 ended the Gentile TimesThe date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scripturesby then the great crisis will be reached and probably passed' (Watchtower Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262), 1923 '1925 is definitely settled by the Scripturesthe Christian has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had (so far as the Scriptures reveal) upon which to base his faith in the coming deluge' (Watchtower April 1, 1923, p. 106), 1925 "The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything." 1914." 2 The Bible shows that the war of Armageddon will save mankind by ending human rule. Jehovah is the one behind all of it. How about, we live productive, simple lives with good christian character, while being fully aware that this system is temporary and being willing and ready to do what we need to do when the time comes?? This calculation is based in the year 1914 as the begining of the last days plus the. 4 Why did Jehovah connect the final great war with Megiddo? Or will ordinary Witnesses see through the date setting because of the flood of information on the Internet? (May 15, 1947, page 157) "The Watchtower does not claim to be inspired in its utterances, nor is it dogmatic." In a similar way, Christ's presence includes the events leading up to and including the great tribulation. alan mcgee gemma interview . http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/87381/1/2034-A-Future-History-of-Jehovahs-Witnesses. Note: The tribes of Dan and Ephraim are not included in this list because Dan was guilty of idolatry at Leviticus 24:11; Judges 18:1, 30; and 1 Kings 12:28-30 and Ephraim guilty of idolatry at Hosea 4:17 and Judges 17. But we display our faith in God's Word and its sure promises by declaring its message to others. "-just not so near as before?). We can take the prophetic time, and time-and-a-half, apply it to the preaching work done by Noah to come up with a parallel even realized by the inspection. For further information, consult the article on this web site: A Study of Matthew Twenty-four. Other Jehovah's Witnesses presidents included Nathan H. Knorr (1942-1977), Fredrick W. Franz (1977-1992), and Milton G. Henschel (1992-2000). (a)How do we show that we know God? "It is easy for the established churched of Christendom and other people to criticize JWs because their publications have, at times, stated that certain things could take place on 'certain dates'.True, some expectations that appeared to be backed up by Bible chronology did not materializee at the anticipated time. Thanks, Blondie! Since the generation that overlapped with the eagle-eyed anointed that saw the enthronement that also overlapped the end of the gentile times. (Rev. The "Jehovah's Witness" view of the "battle of Armageddon" is but one example of the ineptness of this group to analyze biblical prophecy. 14:1-4; Ezek. Sure, 2035 will roll around and the world will still be kicking along and there will be fall out from another false prophesy but if you could increase the numbers from 7 million to 14 million, who cares if you lose even 25%. (2 Tim. Even the republics will disappear in the fall of 1920. The Watchtower, the official journal of Jehovah's Witnesses, has said: "We have not the gift of prophecy." 2 - Set an end date at 2034 and attempt to repeat the amount of growth they got in the 20 years prior to 1975. And she has spilled much blood, including the blood of Gods servants. The imperative mood indicates a command, the singular/masculine form suggests the directive was initially to Timothy, the present tense reflects an action in which the young evangelist was to be currently engaged, and the middle voice carries the personal responsibility to turn yourself away from these things. 1. In December, the 2021 Governing Body Update #10 announced that 25,658 Jehovahs Witnesses have died due to Covid 19. If you found the Watchtower contradicted the Bible which would you believe? I doubt they'll come out with a specific date in the near future. 17:11) But Armageddon does not refer to any literal place on earth. THE WATCHTOWERSTUDY EDITION September2019, Share (C.T. 12:2; Rev. Interrupt them. She has prostituted herself spiritually by forming alliances with earths rulers. Songez ce qu'il signifiait : plus que 120 ans et Jhovah allait amener" un dluge d'eau sur la terre, pour ravager de dessous les cieux toute chair dans laquelle la force de vie est en action" - Gense 6:17 7 () Et nous ? (Matt. (Acts 1:6) But because expectations have at times been premature and so have not been fulfilled, does this mean that God has somehow changed his purpose? and the award for longest subject title for a thread goes to What about 1931+120? Nothing is interpreted but the interpretation comes from God and is then published . You will be interested to learn that God has on earth a people, all of whom are prophets , or witnesses for God. Babylon the Great has brought much reproach on Gods name. for God has on earth today a prophetlike organization , Jehovah's anointed witnesses on earth. 11ff); it affirmed that Armageddon indeed was near. There are no signs of the second coming of Christ in spite of the claims of the Watchtower cult and their religious kinsmen, the Dispensationalists. There is no comparison! The account in Luke is admittedly much clearer in putting emphasis on the event, it occurred rather than the days of. class to publish the interpretation after the Supreme Court by Christ Jesus reveals it. 16:14) However, in this article, we will also use the term Armageddon to refer to the war that immediately follows the gathering of the kings of the earth. - Genesis 6:17", Page 15, Paragraph 7 "Noah received the warning of the upcoming catastrophe decades in advance and he wisely used the time to prepare for survival.' Even then, the governing body will have a challenge in convincing ordinary Witnesses to hang around until then. If we have once established what instrument God is using as his "slave" to dispense spiritual food to his people, surely Jehovah is not pleased if we receive that food as though it might contain something harmful. But Scott Terry, a former Jehovah's Witness for 14 years and author of Cowboys, Armageddon, and The Truth: How a Gay Child Was Saved from Religion, believes that a widespread apathy towards door . THE WATCHTOWERSTUDY EDITION September2019, Audio download options Had not the society stated it in certain terms (unlike the 1975 date on which they were wishy washy)? (Rev. 1975 came and went and the governing body had to deal with the fallout for the coming 5 years until things started to pick up again. Armageddon: The Next of the Left-Behind Series, The English Standard Version and Micah 5:2, Be Confident of Your Salvation Studies in 1 John (Part 2). Publication download options And oh yeah! The misnamed Jehovahs Witnesses have a long, undistinguished history of setting dates. Was it not founded on the 'immovable' 1914 date? The organization expanded worldwide under these men's leadership, from about 113,000 in 1942 to more than 6 million in 2000. Jehovah's Witnesses teaches that Armageddon will start in the year 2034. Final Prophecy Cycle Timeline Images; . Rather, he compared his presence to the much longer period of time that led up to the Flood. (The Watchtower June 1, 1976 pgs. The OT junk about God bringing mass slaughter was just to make the Israelites feel good about themselves and their volcano god. It does not mean that the writings in this magazine The Watchtower are inspired and infallible and without mistakes." 23 The holy spirit of Jehovah is working mightily today! PRIVACY POLICY Just google Armageddon 2034. I was quite taken with this theory at the time, but of course 1999 came and went. www.opendialoguemediations.com. Jehovah's Witnesses are more convinced than ever before that the end of the world is imminent. *** Watchtower 1983 February 15 p.12 You Can Live Forever in on Earth-But How? 2034,that would make my husband 84yrs old.But i thought it was any day now.Same crap,keep the flock in line with death threats no matter how long it takes. 2. (Genesis 6:3) The issuance of this divine decree in 2490 B.C.E. A few victims who can't conform here and there, but "the organization" on the whole is moving fast forward. 15 Christ and his heavenly armies will defend Gods people and crush Gogs hordes. (Luke 21:36) We must also follow up our prayers by studying Gods Word daily and meditating on it, including its amazing prophecies concerning our times. (Isa. The December 15, 2003 Watchtower article is paralleling Noah's day to our present day. (Genesis 6:3) The issuance of this divine decree in 2490 B.C.E. The effects of having no date took a while to manifest but compare the "zeal" of your average JW 20 years ago to the average JW now. Its mission is to reveal documents, files, and publications that are kept secret from the vast majority of Jehovah's Witnesses, particularly vulnerable persons and women. by Nicolas (a)Why is Armageddon good news for mankind? And so will many other people. 32 Replies (1Cor. Why do they have to go from one extreme to another? 8 That will be the foretold proclamation of "peace and security." Why will world leaders say that? Only 120 years more and Jehovah would bring 'the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens.' Did not Moses make a 40-year miscalculation in trying to act ahead of time to remove Israel's affliction? Questions From Readers Second Peter 3:10 says: "Jehovah's day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a hissing noise, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be discovered.". The 'end' did not come. Or will the Witnesses break up into various factions and branches before it even reaches that stage? But is it not far preferable to make some mistakes because of overeagerness to see God's purposes accomplished than to be spiritually asleep as to the fulfillment of Bible prophecy? You must not get frightened at him.'. A replacement for Freddy is still awaited. I didn't see this as an endorsement of 2035 as the end, but rather a statement that there's still lots of time left. Are There Signs of the Second Coming of Christ? Some Dubs believed the year 2000 would not arrive before Armageddon. Seriously based on the 'overlap' generations definition Armageddon has been pushed back to 2154! Words such as "Similar, Similarly, Similarity, Similarities, Parallel, Corresponds, Characteristic, Compare, Arklike and more are all through the article to back up their subtle and hinted claims. Welcome This website was founded by dedicated, baptized Jehovah's Witnesses. Maybe they're use this one after 2034 hope proves false hope once again. And you can tell when Armageddon is near when you see the things . In what order will God destroy Satans world? http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/9941/succeed_fail1.html. 7. Answer the door. The Bible tells us about a most unusual proclamation. U.N. Whores! Coming? (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968). cecinissem casuri agitandarum radiaretis inhibere domuum in Hebrew Gematria equals 2191: c 3 e 5 c 3 i 9 n 40 i 9 s 90 s 90 e 5 m 30 0 c 3 a 1 s 90 u 200 r 80 i 9 0 a 1 g 7 i 9 t 100 a 1 n 40 d 4 a 1 r 80 u 200 m 30 0 r 80 a 1 d 4 i 9 a 1 r 80 e 5 t 100 i 9 s 90 0 i 9 n 40 h 8 i 9 b 2 e 5 in Hebrew Gematria equals 2191: c 3 e 5 c 3 i 9 n 40 i 9 s 90 s 90 e 5 m 30 0 c 3 .